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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-02 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
...

They--

[What?]

They've been moving. When the hole gets bigger. You mean you didn't notice that we're not getting pushed in?
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-02 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Nonono, I mean, inwards? Like, you know. Death chambers, moving walls, pushing you towards the pit with the spikes or teeth or... whatever is down there...

[Muttering. Still focused on the ceiling. This is a very normal conversation.]
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-02 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Well, then we ju--

Oh.

[That wouldn't work...]

...

If it were actively trying to kill us, it might be easier to solve...
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-02 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? [He throws his hands up in frustration.]

We'd have a mechanism, levers, secret chambers. This is all wrong, this is giving us nothing.
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-02 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
If it weren't for the whole.. powers being suppressed, I'd say I knew the way out, now. It'd be a pretty dumb joke, but...

[... Still, it doesn't help them. He shrugs.]

We could have all of that, but we don't. We're right back where we started.
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-06 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Which brings us back to not jumping. God, I want to jump, what is that, that is so wrong?

[He looks over at Junpei.] Powers being suppressed? The city took something away from you?
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-06 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah. Doesn't Steph keep posting something like that?

"We're in Norfinbury, Alaska, year 315X. Snow walls of around 15 meters enclose the residential area to the northwest. Weapons confiscated on arrival. Special abilities, for example magic, superpowers, not functioning. No living wildlife."

... I don't feel any different, but I take it I should believe her.

Thing is, if it weren't true, then the answer would be to jump. Only, not down there. To a different timeline.
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-06 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, she does, but how exactly does that...

[Slow blink.]

You jump timelines?
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-06 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I've.. only done it twice. I think.

I don't know if the second time worked, because before I could reach the point I wanted, I woke up here. ... Well, not this room, obviously.
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-06 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
[Okay, Junpei, you have officially found something that holds his interest here.]

How does it work? What is it like? How do you manage to do it?
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-06 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
[How many times will he get stuck having to explain this..?

... Wait, though. Flynn's pretty smart. Or at least, he's studied a lot. So maybe...
]

How much do you know about Sheldrake's theory of Morphic Resonance?
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-09 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
[Morphic Resonance? He has heard of that. Flynn searches his memory, the facts popping up after a moment.]

Sheldrake, Sheldrake, I know that name, he... oh yes, he was a parapsychologist! ... Well, not really, he was a biochemist but his theory includes phenomena such as telepathy and precognition which didn't really make him a lot of friends in the scientific community? He argues that memory is inherent in nature and systems inherit a collective memory from all previous things of their kind.

[A light tilt of his head.] Is that how it works? Do you hand down memories into the different timelines?
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-09 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Handing down...

[... Well, great. It sounds like Flynn knows more about it than Junpei does.]

Yeah, I guess that's one way to say it. You get the communication part, so I'll skip that. But when there's enough danger, it's not limited to just memories anymore. It's possible for some of us to send our entire consciousness into that.. collective, and come back out at any other point in time.

... Assuming we're alive in that time, anyway.
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-09 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That is amazing. Are the old memories up to that point overwritten? Or do they co-exist? What is that collective? Is it an entity, a machine, an artifact?

[Uncomfortable pause.]

What if you're not?
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-10 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
[... That's a lot of questions. And confusing ones, too.]

Artifact..?

No, I'm.. not sure. I don't think it's anything you can see, or touch. It's like.. suddenly knowing something you didn't before. Or holding a normal conversation when nobody's there, even when the time should make it impossible.

I don't think anything gets lost. But then, I guess I wouldn't know, would I?

... Remember those experiments I told you about? They were testing whether they could make children access the Morphogenetic Field by putting them in danger. Forcing them to contact each other in order to survive. ... One of them didn't make it. Or, well, apparently.

[He reaches up for a moment to rub his neck. This isn't really something he wants to reveal, but with Flynn, it should be okay, right..? Maybe if he just avoids her name...]

She died ten years ago, but she was able to recreate everything that happened in that so-called game and drag me into a second version of it to save her. She was still alive and with me, when.. this happened.

So did I overwrite something by talking to her? I.. still don't know. Nobody remembers her dying, but it all seemed a little too elaborate for a lie.

...

[He shakes his head. Enough about that person.]

If you have no body, you can't go there. That's all. It's not like the time travel you see in movies and all that. I couldn't go, say, 30 years in the past, or something.

When it's your whole consciousness being sent, it's more like a trade. Kind of one-sided, though. It's a pretty bad deal for whatever version of yourself's getting thrown into the timeline you just left.
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-11 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
[Flynn listens attentively, captivated by the narrative. A couple of times he opens his mouth and his finger comes up as if to interject but then lets Junpei go on to hear the entire thing. Which is probably an indication of how intrigued (and horrified) he is by the entire thing.

There is a pang of disappointment at if you have no body, you can't go there which he immediately dismisses. It's nothing but a slightly uncomfortable and guilt-inducing thought anyway because Flynn knows he can't. He can't change what happened and he can't bring Nicole back, just like he couldn't bring his father back; you didn't use magic for personal gain (he figures the same holds true for timeline altering phenomena). He won't let go of the hope, however, that maybe after all this is over, he can take her back to his timeline. The post-Norfinbury timeline.]


So you don't know what's going to happen? That must be difficult.

[A beat.]

Actually, everything about that sounds incredibly difficult. I'm sorry.
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-11 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you would. Generally. You'd have to know where you're going. Like.. now, in a timeline where we didn't end up in this room. Or early enough to not let our guards down by sleeping last night.

... Though I guess there'd be no way to tell if you were going to be the one thrown aside.

Either way. If I'm being told it doesn't work here, I don't think I want to test it...
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-14 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I... yeah. Good point.

[He pauses.] We... had several incidents where it almost felt like we entered different timelines. Things happened but then didn't.

It feels like memories, your own memories. Some are fuzzy, some are very clear, but at the same time I know none of it happen, not really?
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-14 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
[He thinks about that for a moment.]

It's.. probably because those things did happen. Just not in this timeline. ... I can't know if anyone really went into a different one, or if it's memories leaking through to this one, or what.

But, I can tell you something else. That night everyone tried to contact "ghosts"? I watched what happened. The guys that were with me, the way they were just talking to nothing, but they were sure someone was there? Someone who couldn't be, anymore? ... I'm sure that's how it looked when I did it a year ago.

When you think about it like that, they both support the other being real.
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-15 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe. [A frown. A big part of his avoidance strategy is based on these things not being real, as something that didn't happen, not really; the idea that maybe they did, even in a timeline that isn't his own, is uncomfortable at best.]

The seance? I remember that.

[He tries to think back of the sensation of many, of the roar of voices, of hello friend.]

It felt like being connected with a collective of entities, a multitude. A collective memory? You think it could be a similar principle?
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-16 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's almost exactly the same.

I didn't join in, but that's probably what the Morphogenetic Field is like. If you know what you're doing, you connect to one person at a time. You hear what they're thinking, and if you're good at it, you can even feel the same things, or see through their eyes...

When you guys did it, everyone was trying for someone else. My guess is the connections just got crossed. That might be why it was such a mess. Why people were getting hurt, and the conversations just went in circles.

... I got shot down the last time I said it, but I think the fact that it's there at all means it should be possible to contact them one at a time, now that we know how. It should be possible to go back in and get straight answers, if you know who you're looking for. Or just access their memories directly, if you've already managed to get close.
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-17 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I managed to single out one of them. The Russian woman. I was too distracted to ask for her name, but for a moment it was like... [His hands come up in a slightly helpless gesture while he's looking for words.]

Like the crowd parted and she stepped forward and talked to me. She left tally marks in one of the houses, when I asked about that her voice was singled out.

[His nose curls in dissatisfaction.] Wish I would have asked her better questions. It was... really hard to focus in there. [It's always hard to focus. A multitude of voices in his head did not help with that.]
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-18 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
So you have a connection with her now. You could probably contact her alone, if you wanted.

[No, that's a lie. He can't possibly count how many times he tried to contact Akane again. How many times she refused to answer. Had his thoughts ever even reached her since that day...?]

Well, you could if she wants to, as well. But it doesn't hurt to reach out, I don't think. And it's using the field more and more that makes you better at it, so maybe it's the same here. If we just keep trying, who knows? Maybe we'll just suddenly know all about the past sessions.

[They've really strayed off topic, though, haven't they?

Junpei sighs.
]

But that's not gonna get us outta this room.

Unless.. it is..?

There's no other way out. Something's telling us to jump. Not with words, but still. What if that something is someone? What if it's that same kind of connection?

[Maybe he's grasping at straws, here, but it's a new angle. That has to be worth something.]
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[personal profile] cahooted 2018-03-23 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
You think?

[That's... actually not a bad idea. People had contacted single ghosts before and maybe she would even remember Flynn?]

Maybe I'll try that. ... You know. Given that we survive today and get back to the city and won't be swallowed whole.

[Yes, Flynn, there's a giant pit in the middle of the room, we know.

But he perks up at someone.]


You mean the pit could be unrelated to the pull. And if that's the case, something - or someone - else could be in here with us.
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[personal profile] fiftheclipse 2018-03-23 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That's right. Although, not necessarily in here.

If it is the same, they could be anywhere. Any time. Might be one of those ghosts. Might be overlapping between sessions. But either way, they might be able to hear us, too.

[But what do they even do with that? Ask for a way out? Surely everyone's thought of that already, and it's clear nobody's--

... No, that's not true.
]

Problem is, if we get through to it, what if that pull just gets stronger?

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