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cassel sharpe ([personal profile] theurgy) wrote in [community profile] snowblindrpg2017-01-17 09:03 pm

[network] @genresavvy; video; night 199 [open]

Hey.

[Cassel gives his tablet an exaggerated wave.]

So I was talking to Winter earlier, and she agreed to make an app for me. Whatever it is will interface with the technology around town wirelessly, or so she says, so we can use it on the servers in town hall. You know, assuming we ever get there. Anyway, she didn't actually give it to me yet, but I'll keep you all updated.

[A shining beacon of positivity. He sighs, raking his hand through his hair.]

In other news, my feet are fucking freezing, because no one gave me the heads up that I'd be taking the vacation from hell in the middle of Bumfuck, Alaska, so I need some shoes. Or socks, whatever, I'm not picky. I'll trade for them, but don't waste my time and try to scalp me. [There's the slightest pause.] Uh, thanks.
quadrangle: (I'M RUNNING OUT OF SYNONYMS)

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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-19 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
YOU CAN IGNORE THE "IF IT WOULD HELP" PART AND JUST ANSWER THE REST OF IT IF YOU WANT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT HER?
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-19 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
[He stares at the question for a long stretch of time.]

sure
go ahead
quadrangle: (yeah i guess)

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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-19 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[... Goddammit, Davesprite. Okay, right, he can do this.]

HER HORNS WERE SHAPED LIKE CAT EARS. HELL SHE LOVED CATS IN GENERAL. HER LUSUS WAS ONE.
SHE USED TO GO HUNTING WITH HER AND TAKE DOWN WILD ANIMALS WITH NOTHING BUT HER BARE CLAWS. SHE WAS PRETTY BADASS, ACTUALLY.


[Which he'd never properly appreciated. Obviously. He wouldn't be Karkat if he'd ever appreciated his friends when he had them.]

SHE LOVED DRAWING, ROLE PLAYING, AND STUPID CAT PUNS. AND I THINK SHE WROTE FAN FICTION ABOUT US? SHE WAS SORT OF OBSESSED WITH SHIPPING.
SHE WAS REALLY FRIENDLY AND THE TOTAL OPPOSITE OF HER MOIRAIL, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY WORKED TOGETHER. HE LOOKED AFTER HER AND HELPED CURB HER IMPULSIVITY, AND SHE KEPT HIM PACIFIED AND MADE HIM ACTUALLY HAVE FUN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. I MEAN FUN THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE PUNCHING OR KISSING HIS ROBOTS.
SHE DIED BEFORE DAVE AND ROSE SHOWED UP AT THE METEOR.
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-19 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[He has to go dig through Karkat's answers to Adelina to find what moirallegiance is, but even after finding that it takes him a bit to form a reply. Thinking about it is... Weird. Heavy. How do you contemplate joining body and mind with someone so utterly different to be one being?]

couple questions
whats a lusus
is it some kind of alien pet
was she that other sprite you mentioned from your team
no wait cant be
nepetas got no reason to ribbit
have you got like any idea how she became one
quadrangle: (hurt)

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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
LUSII ARE THE CREATURES THAT SERVE AS OUR CUSTODIANS.
WE'RE NOT RAISED BY OTHER TROLLS. LUSII FILL THAT ROLE. SO I GUESS IN HUMAN TERMS THEY'RE LIKE OUR ADOPTIVE PARENTS OR GUARDIANS OR SOMETHING, KIND OF LIKE HOW JADE'S BARKBEAST TOOK CARE OF HER.
THE SPRITE FROM OUR SESSION WAS ARADIA, NOT NEPETA. AS FOR HOW SHE BECAME A SPRITE, SHE


[Fuck, he doesn't want to think about this. It's fucked up no matter what timeline it is.]

GAMZEE HAD HER BODY. AND HER HEAD. THE OTHERS TOO.
SO EITHER HE THREW SOME PART OF HER INTO A KERNELSPRITE OR SOMEONE ELSE DID. I DON'T KNOW.
OR ELSE SHE LIVED AND BECAME A SPRITE VOLUNTARILY? BUT I DON'T KNOW IF SHE SURVIVED IN THE OTHER TIMELINE OR WHY SHE WOULD DO THAT IF SHE HAD. SO SHE PROBABLY DIDN'T OR IT WAS AN ACCIDENT OR PART OF SOME PLAN TO WIN, WHO KNOWS.
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
i dont know how shoving us in a sprite together was part of any plan about winning
jade didnt talk about it like it was some integral heroic thing that happened
more like something that happened off on the side


[He can't picture himself doing it on purpose. It just makes him feel so drastically unnecessary. If John could take over the time duties over any Dave, then how useful was he, himself, on the scale of things? A defunct sprite with no game ending powers to contribute, so much so that he was ready to leave and let the real players get on with it...]

can i ask how she died
or why gamzee was like that
or if not can i just ask about why you werent raised by your own parents
quadrangle: (honk HONK)

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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
OH LOOK, TWO OF YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE THE SAME ANSWER! A PSYCHOPATHIC CLOWN FOUND HER WHILE HE WAS BUSY TRYING TO SLAUGHTER EVERYONE ON THE METEOR AND THEN GUESS WHAT HAPPENED! AND HE KEPT HER CORPSE BECAUSE HE'S FUCKING CRAZY LIKE THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE PARENTS. WERE YOU PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL??
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
how do you not have parents
i know you come from eggs and dont have dicks but somebody had to get down and troll dirty with somebody else to make the rest of your species exist
like sorry i cant just osmose all the wild and crazy ~*^TROLL FACTZ^*~ at once
im asking because i want to learn doesnt that count for something


[God he feels tired.]

i dont even know what to say about gamzee
i dont even know how to imagine what being around that was like and i literally got murdered here one time
i could say sorry for your loss or sorry for your resident psychopath but they just feel trite and stupid
theres not really a stock sympathy phrase for that
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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I DON'T EXPECT SYMPATHY. DON'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT IT.
AND ACTUALLY IF WE COULD JUST NEVER DISCUSS GAMZEE AGAIN THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY THE MOST PERFECT THING EVER.


[SO, ABOUT TROLL PARENTAGE fuck he needs to stop. Stop. He just needs to stop.]

WE HAVE ANCESTORS BUT THAT'S IT. AND WE CAN NEVER REALLY KNOW FOR SURE WHO THEY ARE OR WHEN THEY WERE ALIVE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW OUR REPRODUCTIVE CYCLE WORKS.
THE MOTHER GRUB IS THE ONE WHO LAYS THE EGGS, NOT A TROLL. AND THE LAYS THOUSANDS OF THEM AT ONCE.
IMPERIAL DRONES GATHER GENETIC MATERIAL FROM BLACK AND RED CONCUPISCENT PAIRINGS AND SHE COMBINES IT ALL. THOSE BECOME THE EGGS, WHICH HATCH INTO WIGGLERS, WHICH PUPATE INTO TROLLS LIKE ME EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, WAY SMALLER AND YOUNGER. AND THEN THEY GET A LUSUS.
I KNOW IT'S BIZARRE BY HUMAN STANDARDS BUT YOUR MAMMALIAN PRACTICES ARE JUST AS WEIRD BY OURS, SO DON'T EVEN START.
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
i was trying to give sympathy i just dont know how to say it right
but fine dude whatever


[He's mad first, but it's the kind that rapidly fizzles and burns inward as he reads over the rest of the answer. He can't even focus on it, not wholly. What should be weird and fascinating and possibly entertainingly alien just washes past him without pause.]

im not going to start

[He can't focus. He just feels like shit right now.]

maybe i should hang up and stop hassling you
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quadrangle: (sulkfit)

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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
YOU'RE NOT HASSLING ME WHAT THE FUCK. IT'S JUST
LOOK GAMZEE IS A REALLY DIFFICULT TOPIC FOR ME. I DIDN'T MEAN TO BLOW YOU OFF OR ANYTHING.
I JUST CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT OK? THAT'S ALL.
AND I APPRECIATE THE SYMPATHY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ARTICULATE ABOUT IT FOR IT TO MEAN SOMETHING.
LIKE I SAID, I JUST... I DON'T KNOW, THE WHOLE SITUATION IS TOO FUCKED UP TO EVEN CONTEMPLATE.
LIKE I THINK I'D ACTUALLY PREFER IT IF YOU EXPOUNDED AT LENGTH ABOUT HOW REVOLTING TROLL REPRODUCTION IS JUST SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
im not going to call it revolting
its different and its weird and i dont really want to think too hard about how drones take your troll spooge to your bug mom
but its just how your species works
like how humans balloon up with babies and then pop them out months down the line
or birds lay eggs and hatch them into chirpy featherless chicks
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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
[—oh thank god, he's not just leaving this conversation at SO ABOUT HOW GAMZEE WAS A HORRIBLE PERSON AND MURDERED EVERYONE. That's really all Karkat needs.]

HOW IS HUMAN REPRODUCTION NOT REVOLTING? YOU LITERALLY HAVE A SMALL CREATURE LIVING INSIDE YOUR BODY AND FEEDING OFF OF VITAL NUTRIENTS YOU WOULD OTHERWISE BE USING YOURSELF.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE CALL THAT ON ALTERNIA? A FUCKING PARASITE.


[His heart isn't really in it, but it's better than nothing.]
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
im not really the one to argue at about that
even if i were still human i wouldnt want to be a father
id probably mess up any kid i tried to raise
so contemplating the highs and lows of whatever pregnancy the mother would go through isnt on my agenda
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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
[... Dammit.]

OK THEN
FUCK I DON'T KNOW. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ASK ABOUT TROLLS?
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
i dunno
you want to pick a topic and just expound about it be my guest
but if not i can let you go here
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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
[....]

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING.
EXCEPT FOR AUSPISTICISM I GUESS BUT I'M PROBABLY GOING TO GO OVER THAT WITH ADELINA AT SOME POINT.
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
ok then
whats auspisticism
im probably going to mispronounce that horribly if i ever try to say that btw
ditto moirail
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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
[why did you have to say the m word okay no focus on auspisticism, come on.]

THE ASHEN QUADRANT.
IT EXISTS TO PREVENT BLACK INFIDELITY BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, TROLLS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO HATE A LOT OF PEOPLE ROMANTICALLY. SO IN THOSE SCENARIOS, AN AUSPISTICE WILL STEP IN AND KEEP THE OTHER TWO TROLLS FROM BEGINNING A CALIGINOUS AFFAIR.
IT'S SOMETIMES USED TO HELP MEDIATE ISSUES BETWEEN EXISTING KISMESES AND MATESPRITS, TOO, BUT THAT'S MORE OF A TEMPORARY MEASURE.
GOOD AUSPISTICES ARE HARD TO COME BY, AND THE WHOLE DAMN QUADRANT IS HARD TO MASTER IN GENERAL. IDEALLY TROLLS SHOULD HAVE ALL FOUR FILLED THOUGH.
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
hold on let me dig through the other threads again

[Reading reading...]

ok in the big mess of everybody talking over everybody else you didnt get around to actually saying which thing a matesprit or a kismese or caliginous is
you talked about how your weird hatemance works which sounds frankly bizarre to me
the rest of this too
like you dont call a marriage counselor a romantic partner on earth
or your therapist
if you did you could probably say rose was moirail dating me with how often she tried to psychoanalyze me and thats gross as hell
the point is this is all super disjointed and hard to follow even without getting to how weird it is from a human perspective
quadrangle: (troll romance)

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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
OK HANG ON.

[And, after a suitable pause—]

SYMBOL QUADRANT NOUN PARTNER VERB
FLUSHED MATESPRITSHIP MATESPRIT N/A
PALE MOIRALLEGIANCE MOIRAIL N/A
CALIGINOUS KISMESISSITUDE KISMESIS N/A
ASHEN AUSPISTICISM AUSPISTICE AUSPISTICIZE

WE DON'T HAVE MARRIAGE COUNSELORS OR THERAPISTS. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE MARRIAGE.
AND FROM A TROLL PERSPECTIVE, THAT REALLY WAS SIMILAR TO MOIRALLEGIANCE? BUT WE DON'T HAVE SIBLING RELATIONSHIPS EITHER.
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
ok good for trolls but humans thats called incest and its disgusting
so lets just drop that comparison right there
i take it this means the kissmess is the hatedating quadrant
quadrangle: (blargh blargh)

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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
[Oh god, this again.]

OK FIRST OF ALL YOU DON'T HAVE SEX WITH YOUR MOIRAIL. SECOND OF ALL
ACTUALLY FORGET THE SECOND OF ALL BECAUSE I DOUBT I'LL EVER UNDERSTAND WHY INCEST IS A PROBLEM FOR YOU PEOPLE UNLESS BEING HUMAN SIBLINGS MAKES YOU MOIRAILS BY DEFAULT? BUT I KNOW IT DOESN'T SO THAT'S PREPOSTEROUS TO BEGIN WITH.
ANYWAY WHATEVER. YES KISMESIS IS THE HATE DATING QUADRANT. ONE OF THE HATE DATING QUADRANTS, BUT I DOUBT YOU'LL EVER WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND AUSPISTICISM SO LET'S FOCUS ON THAT.
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[personal profile] mrcreamsicles 2017-01-20 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
were not moirails
stop calling us moirails
even if its not a sex quadrant i dont want to do any kind of dating my sister
and its a thing because if you have kids with your relatives it causes health problems and shit like that
the hate thing is still too weird so im going to steer us back the other way
how the hell is pity romantic
pity for humans is like somewhere between sympathy and condescension
i know i wouldnt want to date someone who looks down on me like that
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[personal profile] quadrangle 2017-01-20 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I MEANT HYPOTHETICAL MOIRAIL WHICH YOU (MEANING A GENERAL AUDIENCE, NOT YOU SPECIFICALLY) MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE. STOP GETTING SO OFFENDED.
AND SURE, OK. WE'LL NEVER DISCUSS THIS AGAIN, GOODBYE ALL TALK OF INCEST. HAPPY NOW?


[What is wrong with humans, seriously.]

AS FOR WHY PITY, IT'S... THINK OF IT MORE LIKE EMPATHY, I GUESS. OR CARING ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY FUCKING CARE ABOUT SOMEONE.
I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN HERE: TROLLS ARE VIOLENT AND FREQUENTLY DIE BECAUSE OF THE WILDLIFE, EACH OTHER, IMPERIAL DRONES, OR INNATE STUPIDITY. SO CARING ABOUT SOMEONE AT ALL IS A BIG DEAL.
AND CARING ENOUGH TO INTERVENE IN THEIR LIVES AND STOP THEM FROM BEING AN ABSOLUTE MESS IS AN EVEN BIGGER DEAL. THAT'S WHY IT'S ROMANTIC. AND THEN TO FULLY COMMIT YOUR LIFE TO IMPROVING SOMEONE'S CIRCUMSTANCES IS THE BIGGEST DEAL OF ALL.
MOIRALLEGIANCE IN PARTICULAR INVOLVES


[He stops, staring at that final line on his tablet, then deletes it. Starts over.]

MATESPRITSHIP REQUIRES PITY SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE ENTERING THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH A PERSON KNOWING THEIR FLAWS AND YOU ONLY LOVE THEM MORE BECAUSE OF THEM. MAYBE SOME THINGS THEY DO STILL IRRITATE YOU, BUT YOU DON'T LEAVE THEM BECAUSE OF THOSE MINOR ISSUES BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THEIR HAPPINESS.
I MEAN, OK, THINK OF IT THIS WAY: IF YOU SEE SOMEONE AND THINK "OH THEY LOOK SO PITIFUL" DO YOU JUST WALK STRAIGHT PAST THEM OR DO YOU STOP AND ASK WHAT'S WRONG AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP?

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