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[vaultexile]

[This is Hope. She is totally calm and rational and....smiling.]

Okay first of all, just a note on the off chance if the people who brought us here and messed with our minds are listening. Everyone else feel free to ignore this part, I have something I have to say after it though.

[Yup still smiling.]

If you ever touch my memories of my father again I will do everything in my power to find you and kill you. Or smash you if you aren't alive in the traditional sense. I'm not picky. Just.Don't.

[And the creepy smile is gone and she's serious again.]

Right got that out of the way. Feel free to tell me it's pointless but I have more important things to bring up. First, virtual realities. Does anyone know about them and if so what do you think about the idea that we're in one right now? Memories being altered, people "dying"  but coming back fine, and we're trapped in what seems to be an enclosed space if our guesses about those ice walls keep up.

I've been in two of them in the past and one was run kinda like this only with more memory loss and less different worlds. Also more being tortured but I don't want to give them any ideas... I don't know how the other worlds would tie in save for the idea that we actually just have false memories but I think we should wait to get into that sort of mess until we have more proof.

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video; ID - @RSTARK

[kingofthenorth]

[This is Robb Stark, his beard is starting to grow in more, and his curls frame his face more.]

I understand being sensitive to memories of one's father being tampered. I'd be furious too if mine were changed.

[He loved and respected his father more than anything.]

Could you explain 'virtual realities'?

[All this talk of technology was almost overwhelming for the Young Wolf, but he was quickly picking it up, in fears of being left behind.]

[vaultexile]

They took mine. I only remembered I even HAD a father this morning.

[Trying to remain calm about that. But it's really hard.]

I'll do my best. I can only explain the ones where I'm from but the simple version is that there's a computer system that you're hooked up to and it puts your mind in a fake world while you physically remain in the real world. In that virtual world whoever is in charge can change all sorts of things from the surroundings to peoples appearances to killing people and bringing them back without really killing them.

[kingofthenorth]

[Robb's brows are knitted tightly together.]

And that is all that is remembered? Nothing of his voice? Actions? Touch? [Robb looks away, reflecting on how he would feel if such memories were lost to him. He might have to risk everything if they tampered with him like that here.

Her continued explanation brings his attention back.]

...I don't understand the technology here; it is far more advanced than where I come from, but what you describe sounds something of a dream. If something happens in a dream, I am unaffected when I wake up. Is that what I understand of your description?

[vaultexile]

No. I remember everything else. I meant I didn't even remember having a father before this morning.

[Some of the stuff she'd like to still forget, like him dying in front of her, but she'll keep that to herself.]

Oh that's a good analogy. It's just a longer more realistic dream that doesn't end until either the program does, or you're disconnected.

Unless you're in a really extreme military one, then if you die you die in real life.

video, id: tinkerbell

[trybelieving]

[Tink did hear the warning about ignoring her, but having listened anyway, she's rather impressed by Hope. It sounds similar to what she might say, if she thought it would get her anywhere.

She may not be smiling, but she is alert (though emotionally drained) and willing to talk to this out.] What's the difference between a virtual reality and reality? I'm unfamiliar with the term.

[vaultexile]

It's a weird one, I've been in virtual realities twice in my life. If we are in a virtual reality world that would mean that these are not our real bodies, that the real versions of us are hooked up to some computers or other technology and this is all a really realistic simulation.

[trybelieving]

I've never been in a virtual reality before. I assume it'd feel lifelike, but it's still a bit of a stretch for someone like me.

[Tink being a fairy from the Enchanted Forest.]

Where I'm from, we have magic - though we're behind in technology, compared to other worlds.

voice; id: nanny

[jinxings]

[ Haku opts to ignore the first part, really - he doesn't like butting into people's personal business just as much as he doesn't like people butting into his own. But that last part.. well, it doesn't sound like it'd be too unlikely. Being kidnapped to some faroff place wouldn't be all that weird, especially not since one could easily associate this cold with the Northern Union, but people dying and reviving.. ]

I don't think it's a very far-fetched idea. It's possible.

[ He pauses for a moment, then continues. ]

But it'd be hard to prove it is one if we are stuck in it. It's supposed to seem as real as possible, after all.

voice

[vaultexile]

Yeah. It's my current theory right now if only because of the coming back from the dead thing but we really do need more clues to prove or disprove it.

[jinxings]

The only way would be if it started glitching.

[ Even if that'd be hard to determine - just what could be considered a glitch? The weird communication failure over these devices a few days ago, maybe, but on the other hand, that could also be a simple technological failure with a hint of something else mixed in, since that paranoid feeling could not have been natural. ]

But if it's really the case, then they must have prepared the whole thing well enough that it wouldn't glitch to begin with.

@TW; text

[maskintape]

another guy thought this place could be VR too
@SummerVacation, iirc
not really buying the idea myself but I guess it's possible

[ Um, clearly this is ACTUALLY some sort of hell dimension and everyone was brought here by a tall faceless guy in a business suit. Duh. ]

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[vaultexile]

I'm not sure what else could bring us back from the dead but I'm open to other ideas.

[maskintape]

there are people here who were already dead BEFORE being brought to Norfinbury
so
idk how a VR machine could do that either

video; @Chillinski

[figureitout]

Wait, a virtual reality?

[Ignoring that creepy smile mostly because.... he gets it, really, if someone took his memories of his family he'd be livid-- and anyway, it's not really his business. And she said to ignore her, so it's probably the nice thing to do here.]

Like, the kind where our bodies are all somewhere and our consciousness is experiencing all this while thinking it's real, or the kind where someone somehow makes our actual bodies into data and uploads us as whole to the virtual reality? [Yes, this is what he's concerned with here. Not relevant, maybe, but... inquiring minds want to know.]

I guess it's as good a possibility as the idea that we've all somehow been taken from our home and transported here. [Actually, it makes more sense than that.]

video

[vaultexile]

.....I've never heard of the second kind but I've personally been in the first kind twice in my life.

[figureitout]

Yeah, well, I've only read about it, too. And up until now I didn't even know you can make an actual virtual reality. But if you've been in one-- was there anything different from, uh, real reality? I mean, something... off, things that wouldn't be possible otherwise, any glitches?

[Anything that they could watch out for here and try to see if her theory is right.]

audio; @Spoiler

[spoileralert]

How are you holding up?

[ Steph has nothing useful to contribute to the conversation, and so will socialize instead. ]

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[vaultexile]

[Hope pauses because yeah that's a good question. Not well. She's managed to hide the fact that she's been crying but having to suddenly remember your fathers death is not fun. However she keeps that to herself, because that's what she does.]

I'm fine. ...as can be expected after getting your memory messed with I suppose.

audio

[spoileralert]

[ Steph can read between those lines easily enough. ]

It's looking more and more like the symptoms of 'death' are only temporary. That's a good thing, I think.

video - @claytonator

[dr_unconscious]

[There's a lot to talk about with what's just come to light, but Clayton is going to take things one step at a time, as usual. He doesn't want to overwhelm her or anything.]

So that's what it was? Just memories of yer dad? Nothin' else?

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[vaultexile]

Just?

[Sorry wrong thing to say. Or right thing if you wanted to actually hear more about her life, because anger makes her talk without thinking.]

He was the only family I had growing up, I lost every.single. memory I had with him. That was half of my childhood and a good portion of my recent memories up until after he died and I had to move on without him.

[dr_unconscious]

[Hope's hardly finished taking a breath to start her rant when Clayton recognizes his mistake. Instantly his hands are up, palms out and expression pleading, waiting for a place to carefully butt in and sort this mess out before it gets any worse.]

--Whoa, whoa, hold on now. Bad phrasin', my fault. Ain't nothin' worth brushin' off 'bout forgettin' family--'specially someone close as yer dad. I get that an' I'm real, honest sorry 'bout implyin' anything different. [Not that Clayton would know, but that's hardly appropriate to bring up right now.] What I was meanin' was, you lost the memories of yer pop specifically? 'Cause I'll be honest, I ain't never heard of amnesia like that before.

@LELRIC; voice only

[armoured]

[Al sits quietly through her rant and the subsequent explanation. He doesn't know the right thing to say, only that he has to say something, because he's come to like her in the past couple of weeks and she... she's lost something precious to her too.]

I know how I would feel if they tampered with my memories of my family, but... but you can't give yourself to revenge like that, it'll only hurt you more.

voice

[vaultexile]

[Oh no, she's starting to like you too mysterious voice who sounds too young to be here. However....she laughs at that. She's just gotten some fresh memories of her father dying and killing the person who did it is something she has no regrets over. sorta maybe it's complicated]

Revenge doesn't hurt me, what hurts me is the people doing those things in first place. And guess what, they stop when you kill them.

[armoured]

Revenge hurts everyone, it just perpetuates a cycle of violence and further revenge. Do you... do you think your Dad would want that for you?

[He understands where she's coming from, he really does, but he also knows that he would lose a large part of Trisha that he carries with him, if he were ever to give into such notions.]